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News Type: Opinion — Tue Jul 1, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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Obama "has always believed that Bill Clinton is one of this nation's great leaders and most brilliant minds, and looks forward to seeing him on the campaign trail and receiving his counsel in the months to come," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.
So saith Obama. Yesterday.
For to Obama, saying what he feels like saying whenever it suits him is par for the course. His is an unending litany of false facts and fake events and views. Perhaps this is the greatest one of all.
For more than a year, Obama has viewed Bill Clinton with contempt. He has claimed that Bill Clinton was not the type of leader, much less a "great" leader, that Reagan was. He has never called Bill Clinton a "brilliant mind." And he and his surrogates have continually castigated Clinton as racist, prejudiced, having been morally bankrupt, and having singlehandedly led to our country's moral decay.
Here are a few sample, including one as recently as this past week.
Barack Obama's selection of Solis Doyle to be Chief of Staff for whoever becomes the VP pick has some Clinton supporters, as Senator Obama might say, hysterical. Doyle is an extremely controversial figure in Clinton circles. Her departure from her role as campaign manager for Hillary was contentious, and Clinton insiders suspect her as a possible source for the recent, unfavorable Vanity Fair article about President Bill Clinton. Some loyalists think she is shopping a "McClellan" with various publishers.
In an interview with the Reno Gazette-Journal's editorial board on Monday, Democratic Sen. Barack Obama said that under Reagan the GOP was the "party of ideas." Of Reagan, he said he "changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way Bill Clinton did not." "I think it's fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10 to 15 years in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom," Obama said. "He just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."
Earlier Sunday, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe sent this statement to volunteers: "We currently have reports of over 200 separate incidents of trouble at caucus sites, including doors being closed up to thirty minutes early, registration forms running out so people were turned away, and ID being requested and checked in a non-uniform fashion. This is in addition to the Clinton campaign's efforts to confuse voters and call into question the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at these locations. These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of an entire week's worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself. On Wednesday, Bauer said all these tactics showed a "willful intention to distort the process in favor of ... Senator Clinton."
And he spit on the attempt to paint Obama as a naive kid peddling false hope: "What counts in our leadership is not the length of years in Washington. …With Barack Obama, we will turn the page on the old politics of misrepresentation and distortion. With Barack Obama, we will close the book on the old politics of race against race, gender against gender, ethnic group against ethnic group, and straight against gay."
Even as voters in South Carolina headed to the polls Saturday to deliver a beat down to Sen. Hillary Clinton for Sen. Barack Obama, former President Bill Clinton continued to stoke the racial fire, hoping an ember would ignite his wife's campaign and lead it to victory.
Clyburn accused Clinton and her husband yesterday of marginalizing black voters and opening a rift between her campaign and an African American Democratic base that strongly backed Bill Clinton's presidency. Some surrogates in her camp are trying to render Obama unelectable against the Republican nominee so she could run for the Democratic nomination in 2012, he suggested. The discussion flared up yet again when Bill Clinton suggested this week that Obama's campaign had played "the race card" after the former president compared the candidate to Jesse Jackson after the South Carolina primary.
Now we have several new thrusts, each showing more of Obama's true colors. Months ago, some said that Obama was actually a conservative dressed in liberal clothing. The moniker never stuck. From one point to another, his supporters attempted to refute his close relationship with Richard Lugar. It mattered not that he was called Obama's mentor in the Senate. No, not a Democrat. A Republican with one of the most Right Wing histories of any senator. A senator whose civil rights record is so abysmal he has been at or close to the top of "good" conservatives for years.
Everyone either lauded the great one for his ability to work both sides, or treated this as either fiction or something clever about Obama.
He has moved into new territory recently, according to some. He has embraced the death penalty, a sin of the first order for those who were against the death penalty for their whole lives because of its immorality and indecency, and its prejudicial application. To Obama, this is consistent with some of his votes on what he called defective gun legislation. To others, this was more of the same from the guy who was never what he said he was.
Then came guns. All for them. Let them bloody the streets with baby blood. After all, this affects Obama not in the least. He has never lived in any ghetto. To him, guns are great things, even for those who cling to them.
Now it is religion. To be mixed heavily with government. Federal government. For you and the conservative Right.
If your head is spinning it should not. Obama is the one who managed to say that Clinton was a horrible president when comparing him with any other president since FDR. Now he is great because of his intelligence.
Can you see through Obama, or is it still too hard to do this? Can you tell what is happening here, or are you going to vote this guy in anyway?
Yes, Obama cannot be dishonest. Whatever he says, he is being honest. It just depends on what side of the mouth and who he is being today.
And all the while you look for change.
He has played you for fools. It is not too late. But your only choice is McCain. A far better one, who is far more understandable, than the Obama you see now or will see next.
Remember, his finger is going to be on the button of a nuclear holocaust. And the inferno he may seek to unleash could be against anyone, for any reason.
He will keep the spies and spy on you. He will keep the guns, and arm his friends. He will keep the death penalty, and decide who and when to kill.
Trust Obama, and he will make you safe.
Really?
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{"commentId":2098991,"authorDomain":"caligiurijoseph"}
Political, hopefully you saw my request a couple days ago asking you to get on about Obama, as I have told you many times I doubt we agree but when it comes to presenting things people should be thinking about you certainly know how to stir the soup. I have also pointed out to the rest that it is okay to read your articles and the need for rants against your position close their minds. We don't agree but because you have the right and skill to present your position I hope that the readers take the time to think about things outside their perceptions. Not agree or even make just your ideas the topic of their thoughts but at least a wider, thicker book than their particular bible. Single train of thoughts belong in cults not in a functioning society. Thanks my friend Joe
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- 2 votes
#1 - Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:09 PM EDT{"commentId":2102054,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}
{"commentId":2102180,"authorDomain":"muckingfess"}
Joseph Caligiuri
Political, hopefully you saw my request a couple days ago asking you to get on about Obama, as I have told you many times I doubt we agree but when it comes to presenting things people should be thinking about you certainly know how to stir the soup. I have also pointed out to the rest that it is okay to read your articles and the need for rants against your position close their minds.
I'm so glad you have given us permission to read his articles. That statement is proof of the "elitist" attitude so prevalent in Obama's campaign. I just wouldn't know what to read without such permissions.
Political- Keep the faith- there are some of us that can see through the Pied Piper.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2102714,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}
{"commentId":2099274,"authorDomain":"vbplhamilton"}
Well, all that writing and no one is paying attention. Time to quit in regards to the crap you want to say about our next President!
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#2 - Tue Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT{"commentId":2100939,"authorDomain":"caligiurijoseph"}
he is a equal opportunity writer, he has said stuff about all the candidates as well as social. One thing i have never read from him is a choice on his pick for president or a cut in stone stand on a subject he writes on. I consider his style a asset to the community if he only gets one person to consider that there might possibly exists a opinion than the one they are on. as in the last sentence of post #1 " Single trains of thought belong in cults not in a functioning society"
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2102059,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}
{"commentId":2100903,"authorDomain":"neilbco"}
You are deep into the hyperbole of the presidential election. Obama is evil, a liar, etc. McCain is good. I refer you to my own post on this.
http://senseandnonsensnb.blogspot.com/2008/06/that-presidential-campaign-hyperbole.html
Politics is an art form; you say what you have to say in order to get elected. If you can't do that don't run. It is likely that Obama despises Bill Clinton, but he needs a united party behind him. McCain has been doing more flip-flopping than a life fish on a hot griddle. It is possible, and maybe even probable, that McCain is suffering from some early onset of dementia. No, I'm not talking through my hat. His anger problems are likely getting worse. Remember, he spent six years Hotel Hanoi which had a significantly deleterious effect on his physical and mental health. He is older than his 72 years.
Obama is going to court the evangelicals right out from under McCain. Obama was never my first choice. My first choice was gutted and left for dead by the political left of the Democratic Party.
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- 4 votes
#3 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 12:14 AM EDT{"commentId":2101105,"authorDomain":"adambecker"}
McCain is good.
When did the author say this?
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{"commentId":2101177,"authorDomain":"adambecker"}
Everyone either lauded the great one for his ability to work both sides, or treated this as either fiction or something clever about Obama.
This is the bit of Democrat Party rhetoric that confuses me the most. Obama is disgusting, there's no disputing that - he supports the PATRIOT Act, he wants to expand an obscenely bloated military, he thinks the problem with health care in America is that the corporations don't have enough control, he thinks corporations need more protection from consumers in court and he is playing up his religion to secure votes. I'm told by the Democrats, however, that I should ignore Obama's innumerable and inexcusable shortcomings because the Republicans are so evil that keeping them out of power is more important.
Ignoring the fact that the Republicans and Democrats agree on all the things I just listed, and pretending there is merit to an argument that the GOP is evil while the Dems are not - why is it a good thing that Obama is so able and willing to work with them? Are they an unspeakable evil, one worthy of ignoring everything I hold important in order to combat? Or are they worth incorporating into policy decisions? I don't see any way they can be both.
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- 5 votes
#4 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:01 AM EDT{"commentId":2102074,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}
{"commentId":2101440,"authorDomain":"dbourdeau"}
Adam Becker, would you like to be friends let me know. we are on exactly the same page regarding the democrats and republicans. Iˆuse to be a democrat until I discovered Obama and realized the new democratic party is on the same page as the republican on everything.
Iraq, fisa, spying, religion in politics, trade(nafta), immigration, let me see the list goes on and on an it always the same Obama is on the same page as the republicans.
The difference being the republicans have always been upfront and straight forward about this and Obama has lied as PoliticalCenter states. Every time he makes a commitment it is broken, he flip flops better which is known as a liar, as in Obama.
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- 4 votes
#5 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:48 AM EDT{"commentId":2101993,"authorDomain":"caligiurijoseph"}
Kudos to both of you, with the exception of the fact I consider both parties obnoxious in their holier than us common folk, it sounds like I got two more people thinking beyond party bonds. Adam & Diane (good morning to you BTW) I am with you. Diane I did tell you I was ticked over the primaries , right?
{"commentId":2101993,"threadId":"303972","contentId":"1628614","authorDomain":"caligiurijoseph"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":2102056,"authorDomain":"antispami-hussein"}
It would be even better if you all stopped merely complaining, and took a leadership role in the formation of a viable third-party alternative. Otherwise, your zero-action rants, are simply just that; ALL TALK AND NO ACTION...
[step off the pundit stool people]
thankx for not helping!
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- 3 votes
#6 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 7:24 AM EDT{"commentId":2102088,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}
{"commentId":2102203,"authorDomain":"muckingfess"}
Isn't there already a third party out there? Have any of you listened to what they have to say?
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2102771,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}
{"commentId":2102392,"authorDomain":"neilbco"}
Please be patient it's a long series of posts. Could you specify the third-party?
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- 2 votes
#7 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 8:59 AM EDT{"commentId":2104334,"authorDomain":"caligiurijoseph"}
Muckingfess, Sorry if you took it to mean permission, that's not the intent at all. As political suggest I meant that to read others opinions if you agree or disagree can have value because of the ingestion of someones elses opinion. I am nobody important much less one with the gall to tell someone else what to do. Again sorry if I was misunderstood Ps I also have not Obamanized
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- 1 vote
#8 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 1:57 PM EDT{"commentId":2104978,"authorDomain":"dbourdeau"}
I agree Joe, I am not voting parties this year. I don't like either their both the same. It is time for a new party and I would support PoliticalCenter when he starts this new party anyway I can.
I am voting for McCain simply because he is honorable, and a gentleman I also think he is trustworthy which Obama is not.
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- 2 votes
#9 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 3:09 PM EDT{"commentId":2115904,"authorDomain":"neilbco"}
Ah! McCain is honorable and a gentleman and trustworthy, which Obama is not. More rhetoric and hyperbole. The anti-McCain forces post a long history of a gentleman who can't keep his temper and swears like an enlisted man not an officer and a gentleman. And what about the scandals in Arizona that McCain has dodged and come out alive. Are they not all honorable men? That is, if there is any honorable man in politics. Goldwater was probably honorable, but Johnson devoured him. Perhaps McGovern was honorable, but Nixon devoured him. My point? Using honor and politics together is at best a mixed metaphor.
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